[DemonRaven]

I am going to end this by saying that i ran across someone using aiml and labeling as their own that is why i brought it up. Now yes he has available to the public but he has his name in each one. I got upset because someone passed it off as their own stuff. That is why i mentioned it. I am not going to say who did it. Using is fine but claiming it is all yours i dont think so.

[DemonRaven]

Even people who rework eliza usually give credit where it is due. There are like 5 different versions of it that i know of. Most people who use aiml but code it different still give credit where it is due. That is the difference between infringement  and it being legal. People give the author credit for it.

[squarebear]

I am going to end this by saying that i ran across someone using aiml and labeling as their own that is why i brought it up. Now yes he has available to the public but he has his name in each one. I got upset because someone passed it off as their own stuff. That is why i mentioned it. I am not going to say who did it. Using is fine but claiming it is all yours i dont think so.

I assume this is me? Just for the record, when I created those AIML scripts I contacted Dr Wallace and he advised putting the headers like that on each one.

AIML is the language, the code you create from it is your own.

[Snowman]

I really want to do the best thing when it comes to copyrights, patents, and trademarks.
... but more importantly, I want to finish this project so I can at least have something for someone to steal... like Art or Freddy.. 

Why do you think Freddy even created this forum.... so that he can quietly gather the knowledge of the greatest AI minds on Earth... 

In the mean time, I'm gradually losing my mind studying English grammar so I can at least have something important to say on this thread.

...Just letting everyone know I'm still alive.   

There's an old scripture that says, "if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also." Matthew 5:40

[Art]

OK, so then there's no problem! Hurry up with that code!!

[Freddy]

Damn my secret is finally out. I had a good run, but it was bound to happen some time

Even so, thanks to your superior minds I have been able to create the new master species for this planet 

Thanks a lot ! 

[DemonRaven]

I am a webmaster and AIML is the code. What you are putting in is in effect just the text of what you want the code to show. That is like using javascript making a webpage with it then claiming you created the actual javascript. In any case i do not see a use by permission of dr. wallace. Creating code is the actual language for example:
-get:you- hi
-get:them-how are you

-get:you-  is the code the rest is just filling in what you want to present.

[DemonRaven]

The chatterbot challenge had some controversy about this very same thing when it first started. Some did not think individual chatbots created with the personality forges chatbots should be used because they were not using their own code. In the end they allowed it because even though the code was not theirs the work was.

[squarebear]

What you are putting in is in effect just the text of what you want the code to show.

You could not be more wrong. AIML is a programming language. If it were not so, how could I write AIML software files to play tic tac toe, blackjack, yahtzee etc etc? If this is the case then surely any programs you write in C++, Actionscript and so on is not your software and is owned by the company who produced the programming language? How far back do you take this? Surely, everything you write works on an operating system. Do Microsoft own all our work?

I'm going to hazard a guess that you have only used AIML as a basic pattern/template matcher?

If you are correct though, I am surprised that Dr Wallace allowed me to write code for the official AAA ALICE AIML set used in many thousands of bots all over the world.
http://www.alicebot.org/aiml/aaa/
Check out the credits at the bottom, I am Steve Worswick. Here is one with my copyright notice on it
http://www.alicebot.org/aiml/aaa/Wordplay.aiml

[DemonRaven]

what you are doing is writing a program. Not the code. Many people write programs for windows, or the web etc. They can not claim the code is theirs but they can claim the program is. That is why programs are always presented as i created this program or software in C+, or pearl  etc.

[DemonRaven]

I can claim a website presentation is mine but i can not claim i invented  html to do it. You can copy right that until your blue in the face but you did NOT invent the aiml to do it with.

[squarebear]

Where do I claim I invented AIML? The copyright is on the the software I've written not the AIML interpreter.

[DemonRaven]

By removing what Dr.Wallace puts at the beginning of all his aiml.

[DemonRaven]

IF you were claiming that it was just the program software you were referring to then why say i was wrong when i gave you the example of the javascript. Yes you were claiming the aiml was yours. You also put your name on the aiml as it being only yours no where do you give wallace credit.

[DemonRaven]

You yelled about that one person supposedly copying your work when you do the same thing to wallace. The only things you  and that website had in common was the name.